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Man, this fanbrat is persistant. She follows us about, sending us a flurry of private messages and chiding us for being mean to the other fanbrats.
What can we say? We suppose we're guilty as charged, if being mean consists of giving criticism without kissing ass.
As always, we'll be in bold. Strap in tight, pretties, 'cause away we go!
Once again!
Once again, you've used a sentance fragment?
You think it's nice to give horrible reviews!
Our reviews are quite instructional, although we admit the tone of them is less than concilatory. We don't think it's nice, we think it's necessary.
You have way too much time on your hands!
Perhaps. It seems that you do as well.
Either that or you have no life!
Of course, no one who offers constructive criticism has a life. Better tell that to all the newspaper, magazine and book editors. They'll be crushed over your views, we're sure.
Sure this might not be one of those 'wow she totally screwed me' things, but i'm not trying to make it so it's like that.
We wish you'd try to make it so it's like we can understand what the hell you are saying.
What i'm trying to say is someday you're going to be wishing you weren't so god damn rude!
No, we won't. What are you going to do, hunt us down?
And another salvo:
Oh, and by the way, where are YOUR stories?
Ooooh! Straight to our collective chest. We are so injured. Really.
And we reviewed her travesty of a story, "It Ain't Fair Until Your Brother's There." We can't be bothered to link it, because it sucks, okay? Go search it out, if you want, but don't come whining to us if you get badfic eyeburn. We warned you.
Okay, first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing my story.
We know. You like to see that review number go up, regardless of whether or not it's a good review.
Not many people tell me what is wrong with it when they review,
Which is why you continue to write shit.
they just tell me they like it and to update soon,
Pretties, that is what fanbrats usually do. They have no spine, so they simper about how good your story is in the hopes that you will simper back.
so I enjoy reading you criticism.
We suspect that you are lying. This is too long for a simple "thanks for giving me actual concrit" message.
Second, I didn't say she was related to the curtises because she isn't.
No kidding. That is why we seriously doubt the State of New York would send your Mary Sue to live with them. It's called irony, fanbrat.
if you actually read the whole story, then reviewed you might understand it!
If you wrote better, then we might understand it.
As for the social worker, I don't care how old they are suppose to be.
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* The stupid, it burns.
I made it so she was however old I made her to be,
Department of Redunancy Department calling!
because i wanted her to be that age, and i don't care if this is a run on sentance or doesn't make sense.
Yeah, it's totally not cool to care if your reader can understand what you are trying to say. After all, it's not about clearly communicating your ideas, it's about ... shit, we don't know what it's about. A sugar high? Masturbation fantasy? Wish fulfillment? We don't know and we don't give a shit.
Please note, however, you can't win an arguement by going, "whine, whine, whine, I don't care, whine, you can't understand me, but whine, whine."
I prefer to "tag" the pov because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, something you would never feel with that black hole of yours.
Translation: I have no excuse, so I'll insult you instead and hope you get so pissed that you forget that I had no excuse.
Not working, fanbrat.
Who said i was stealing, i chose most of her traits from my friends.
Sure you did. *pats fanbrat on head*
She hated her parents, she was glad they were dead.
Obviously, you've never had anyone close to you die. Good for you, pretty. However, regardless of her dislike of her parents, their deaths would inspire some sort of emotion in her. The reaction was flat, without even any worry about her future. Not believeable.
Who said i wanted to make this believable?
And who said there is no irony in the world? If it's not believable, at least on some level, what is the point? If you, as an author, is a constant presence in the story, why should anyone read it?
I'm just doing it because i can,
Actually, you can't. Not very well at least.
it's fun, and some people, that aren't so critical, actually like reading it.
And some people like dressing in diapers and being bottle fed. There's no accounting for taste.
Sure she may be a rebel sue,
She is.
and you may not care a whole lot for her,
We don't.
but, i just don't care.
Which is why you wrote a long author's reply to us.
Like i said, most people don't care what you say.
And you are privy to this, how?
Oh, and if you read it properly, it was one of the things that she, as in Lily, had grown close to. Like i would give Dallas a blanket.
We would love to properly understand what you are writing. However, your skill level doesn't allow for it.
As for improving my grammer, you need to improve your reading skills, because that's the second time, at the least, you've read my story wrong.
Again, the fault is on your end, not ours. If you can't manage to write something that is understandable, it's not our fault. Perhaps you should blame the educational system, since you are so fond of blaming others for your mistakes? Because your failure to write a readable story couldn't possibly be because you didn't apply yourself and try to craft a good piece of fiction, could it?
Not real glowing eyes idiot.
Missed a comma there. And really, if it is written that her "eyes glowed" how is the reader supposed to know you meant something else? Write what you mean; mean what you write.
I don't care if there are sleeper trains.
"I don't care, whine, whine, whine, I don't care!" Did you stomp your foot while writing this?
I decided to put her on an uncomfortable train.
Translation: I did no research, and you caught me off guard. I will pull this explaination out of my ass instead of admitting I wasn't aware of this facet of cross-country travel, because I can not admit to even the smallest of mistakes.
Anyway, wouldn't you think that would make her seem more Mary-Sueish (i dont care if thats not a real word)
No, riding in a train with a sleeper car wouldn't have made her a Mary Sue, riding in a train with her own private sleeper car would have made her a Mary Sue. Since she's one anyway, why are you even bringing this up? Do you really think we are convinced that you want to make this character less of a Sue?
As for Tulsa high school, i just made it up.
No, really?
i didn't really care how many schools there were back then.
"I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, if I keep saying it, maybe someone will believe it!"
I may have lost your attention, and ow, it hurts so bad! How will i ever get over it. . .oh, like i just did.
Which is why you just spent the last half hour writing this review reply. Yes, we are so convinced that you don't care.
Yes, i do like to write whats in my head when i sit at the computer.
It boggles the mind. Really, it does.
I don't remember bragging about my writing abilities.
Maybe because they are nothing to brag about?
But, what about your writing abilities, i haven't seen any of yours at all.
And you are cursing the fact that you can't revenge-report us, aren't you? The frustration of being able to do nothing to us but send these messages must be just about killing you. We're trying not to laugh in evil delight, but you make it so hard.
Are you to afraid, or do you think no one will care because your an awful *!
ARGH! The bad grammar, it burns us, pretties. If we were truly worried about anyone's reaction, do you think we would review as we do?
Thank you for reviewing!
Thanks for the laugh, we needed it.
What can we say? We suppose we're guilty as charged, if being mean consists of giving criticism without kissing ass.
As always, we'll be in bold. Strap in tight, pretties, 'cause away we go!
Once again!
Once again, you've used a sentance fragment?
You think it's nice to give horrible reviews!
Our reviews are quite instructional, although we admit the tone of them is less than concilatory. We don't think it's nice, we think it's necessary.
You have way too much time on your hands!
Perhaps. It seems that you do as well.
Either that or you have no life!
Of course, no one who offers constructive criticism has a life. Better tell that to all the newspaper, magazine and book editors. They'll be crushed over your views, we're sure.
Sure this might not be one of those 'wow she totally screwed me' things, but i'm not trying to make it so it's like that.
We wish you'd try to make it so it's like we can understand what the hell you are saying.
What i'm trying to say is someday you're going to be wishing you weren't so god damn rude!
No, we won't. What are you going to do, hunt us down?
And another salvo:
Oh, and by the way, where are YOUR stories?
Ooooh! Straight to our collective chest. We are so injured. Really.
And we reviewed her travesty of a story, "It Ain't Fair Until Your Brother's There." We can't be bothered to link it, because it sucks, okay? Go search it out, if you want, but don't come whining to us if you get badfic eyeburn. We warned you.
Okay, first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing my story.
We know. You like to see that review number go up, regardless of whether or not it's a good review.
Not many people tell me what is wrong with it when they review,
Which is why you continue to write shit.
they just tell me they like it and to update soon,
Pretties, that is what fanbrats usually do. They have no spine, so they simper about how good your story is in the hopes that you will simper back.
so I enjoy reading you criticism.
We suspect that you are lying. This is too long for a simple "thanks for giving me actual concrit" message.
Second, I didn't say she was related to the curtises because she isn't.
No kidding. That is why we seriously doubt the State of New York would send your Mary Sue to live with them. It's called irony, fanbrat.
if you actually read the whole story, then reviewed you might understand it!
If you wrote better, then we might understand it.
As for the social worker, I don't care how old they are suppose to be.
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* The stupid, it burns.
I made it so she was however old I made her to be,
Department of Redunancy Department calling!
because i wanted her to be that age, and i don't care if this is a run on sentance or doesn't make sense.
Yeah, it's totally not cool to care if your reader can understand what you are trying to say. After all, it's not about clearly communicating your ideas, it's about ... shit, we don't know what it's about. A sugar high? Masturbation fantasy? Wish fulfillment? We don't know and we don't give a shit.
Please note, however, you can't win an arguement by going, "whine, whine, whine, I don't care, whine, you can't understand me, but whine, whine."
I prefer to "tag" the pov because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, something you would never feel with that black hole of yours.
Translation: I have no excuse, so I'll insult you instead and hope you get so pissed that you forget that I had no excuse.
Not working, fanbrat.
Who said i was stealing, i chose most of her traits from my friends.
Sure you did. *pats fanbrat on head*
She hated her parents, she was glad they were dead.
Obviously, you've never had anyone close to you die. Good for you, pretty. However, regardless of her dislike of her parents, their deaths would inspire some sort of emotion in her. The reaction was flat, without even any worry about her future. Not believeable.
Who said i wanted to make this believable?
And who said there is no irony in the world? If it's not believable, at least on some level, what is the point? If you, as an author, is a constant presence in the story, why should anyone read it?
I'm just doing it because i can,
Actually, you can't. Not very well at least.
it's fun, and some people, that aren't so critical, actually like reading it.
And some people like dressing in diapers and being bottle fed. There's no accounting for taste.
Sure she may be a rebel sue,
She is.
and you may not care a whole lot for her,
We don't.
but, i just don't care.
Which is why you wrote a long author's reply to us.
Like i said, most people don't care what you say.
And you are privy to this, how?
Oh, and if you read it properly, it was one of the things that she, as in Lily, had grown close to. Like i would give Dallas a blanket.
We would love to properly understand what you are writing. However, your skill level doesn't allow for it.
As for improving my grammer, you need to improve your reading skills, because that's the second time, at the least, you've read my story wrong.
Again, the fault is on your end, not ours. If you can't manage to write something that is understandable, it's not our fault. Perhaps you should blame the educational system, since you are so fond of blaming others for your mistakes? Because your failure to write a readable story couldn't possibly be because you didn't apply yourself and try to craft a good piece of fiction, could it?
Not real glowing eyes idiot.
Missed a comma there. And really, if it is written that her "eyes glowed" how is the reader supposed to know you meant something else? Write what you mean; mean what you write.
I don't care if there are sleeper trains.
"I don't care, whine, whine, whine, I don't care!" Did you stomp your foot while writing this?
I decided to put her on an uncomfortable train.
Translation: I did no research, and you caught me off guard. I will pull this explaination out of my ass instead of admitting I wasn't aware of this facet of cross-country travel, because I can not admit to even the smallest of mistakes.
Anyway, wouldn't you think that would make her seem more Mary-Sueish (i dont care if thats not a real word)
No, riding in a train with a sleeper car wouldn't have made her a Mary Sue, riding in a train with her own private sleeper car would have made her a Mary Sue. Since she's one anyway, why are you even bringing this up? Do you really think we are convinced that you want to make this character less of a Sue?
As for Tulsa high school, i just made it up.
No, really?
i didn't really care how many schools there were back then.
"I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, if I keep saying it, maybe someone will believe it!"
I may have lost your attention, and ow, it hurts so bad! How will i ever get over it. . .oh, like i just did.
Which is why you just spent the last half hour writing this review reply. Yes, we are so convinced that you don't care.
Yes, i do like to write whats in my head when i sit at the computer.
It boggles the mind. Really, it does.
I don't remember bragging about my writing abilities.
Maybe because they are nothing to brag about?
But, what about your writing abilities, i haven't seen any of yours at all.
And you are cursing the fact that you can't revenge-report us, aren't you? The frustration of being able to do nothing to us but send these messages must be just about killing you. We're trying not to laugh in evil delight, but you make it so hard.
Are you to afraid, or do you think no one will care because your an awful *!
ARGH! The bad grammar, it burns us, pretties. If we were truly worried about anyone's reaction, do you think we would review as we do?
Thank you for reviewing!
Thanks for the laugh, we needed it.
I would never in a million years search this story out to read. Why? Because she said she doesn't care about making it 1) believable 2) understandable 3) good 4) non-Mary Sue 5) realistic ... the list could go on. If she doesn't care that much, then guess what, NEITHER DO I. I want to read stories where the author cares about getting it right and making it good.
The fake-nice "thanks for reviewing" and all that shit was just the cherry on the sundae - just say it, fanbrat. You got pwned for your crappy writing, it hurt your feelings and instead of improving, you lash out like a 14-year-old mad at mommy for telling her she can't stay out late.
I can think of a dozen other writers who should be wearing that crown.
Seriously, though, was this kid on crack when she wrote that? Or perhaps just insane? I'm not sure if I've seen a worse case.
NOADS, you have your work cut out for you.
And what is with "You don't write, so you don't know nothin' OMGWTFBBQLMAO!?!11?" You don't need to be a writer to enjoy (or in badfic cases, not enjoy) reading. Wah, fanbrat. WAH.
I mean...maybe it's true? ::shifty eyes::
I would throw a parade.
I would assume NOADS is/are (a) writer/s as well, just because their knowledge of the basics is really good, and there's a lot of humour in all the essays and replies which makes me think "writer". If s/he/it/they aren't writers - s/he/it/they should be!
We can dream, can't we?
Huh
Okay...
Re: Huh
Re: Huh
I was commenting on the irony of a writer (Fanficqueen, in this case) who is lacking in some basic writing skills suggesting that NOADS' critique will not be credible to her until she is able to use her knowledge of writing to determine how well NOADS writes.
It's like asking your chemistry tutor to solve some advanced problems so you can assure yourself that she knows what she is doing, when you yourself are unable to solve the problems and don't know what the answers are supposed to be.
Sorry for the confusion :).
Liz
Re: Huh
That's exactly what I get ticked off about - just because someone doesn't have any stories doesn't mean their opinion isn't valid (or RIGHT lol). You don't have to be a writer to critique writing and be correct about what's wrong in someone else's work.
It's like American Idol. I'm not a singer or a musician or a music teacher. BUT, I can totally identify when someone can't sing and they suck. I can tell them things to do to get better (vocal lessons, picking better songs, stop the vibrato etc). Just because I don't sing doesn't mean my opinion (and my corrections) aren't valid.
Re: Huh
I've had it go the other way with reviewers, too, where somebody implies that I would be stupid to dismiss their opinion because they work in the publishing industry. Sorry, but I take advice when it makes sense and applies well to my story, not because somebody rattles off their credentials. Even publication doesn't guarantee somebody knows what they are talking about.
I think that as an author, you need to just use your head, do some research, put your story's needs above your own, and learn to tell the difference between sound advice, and an inflated ego with a computer.
Liz
Wow!
It may take some time for people to realize this, but most of the time what we do (most of us anyway, some of you just do it for reasons unknown to me) is because we know that these people have some, sometimes even a greater potential to actually write good stories.
As she wrote to me,
"This NOADS, is really annoying. But she is right, or is it a he? Anyway, As I look back(oh and notice I capitalized my "I")as I look back, there are many things I can fix, yet I am too arrogant to admit it. I read the site she had, and laughed at some of the remarks she made to peoples PMs. Most of the time, the "fanbrats" as she calls them, do make themselve out to be, well, fanbrats. I'd like to admit to her I am sorry, but then, what will that do? Nothing. I know you have experience with this, so what should I do?"
WOW! Someone's found the light! Amazing right? Fanbrat, has found the light! Maybe now her stories will be less like crap from now on.
Good Job NOADS! At least you've gotten the point across to someone.
Re: Wow!
Re: Wow!